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  • #41
    Originally posted by Ithildin View Post
    I'm so glad that Tolkien dropped "Gnomes" for the book.
    Doing a bit of research shows that "gnome" was used to refer to the Noldor in the early days of the histories. The Noldor were "those with knowledge." JRRT used the word "gnome" with reference to the word gnomic (mysterious and often incomprehensible yet seemingly wise) from the ancient Greek gnomikós " thought, judgement." But then he dropped the word because, well... gnome.

    And I am glad he made this change.

    We would have had Gnomes instead of Noldor were it not for the writing of Renaissance author Philippus Aureolus Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohenheim who used the Latin version of the Greek word to describe "earth-dwellers," and named the little, annoying and ugly imps gnomes. Thanks, Phil. Thanks.

    And now, this:

    Chapter 9 Barrels Out Of Bond

    "The day after the battle with the spiders Bilbo and the dwarves made one last despairing effort to find a way out before they died of hunger and thirst."

    There is no difference between the first edition and the second/third edition.

    IIllustrations: The Elven King's Gate by J R R Tolkien

    Pen & Ink drawing, illustrating the book

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    Watercolour, from the Kindle edition

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    Additional drawings from the appendix to the Kindle edition

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    Compare this to the drawing of Nargothrond in Beleriand, lost beneath the Sea. (Also from the Kindle edition)

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    Last edited by Den; 11th September 2018, 20:06.
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    • #42
      Interesting comparison between those two drawings. And yes, thanks Phil.

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      • #43
        Chapter 10 A Warm Welcome

        "The day grew lighter and warmer as they floated along."

        Once again there are no changes between the 1st edition and the 2nd/3rd edition.

        Illustrations

        1 - Pen and Ink drawing used in most editions
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        Tolkien, J. R. R.. The Hobbit (Enhanced Edition) (p. 306). HarperCollins Publishers. Kindle Edition


        2 - Watercolour used in early imprints, but left out of most (not all) later imprints.
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        Tolkien, J. R. R.. The Hobbit (Enhanced Edition) (p. 189). HarperCollins Publishers. Kindle Edition

        3 - Laketown watercolour
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        Tolkien, J. R. R.. The Hobbit (Enhanced Edition) (p. 192). HarperCollins Publishers. Kindle Edition
        Last edited by Den; 16th September 2018, 00:53.
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        • #44
          Chapter 11 On The Doorstep

          "In two days going they rowed right up the Long Lake and passed out into the River Running, and now they could all see the Lonely Mountain towering grim and tall before them."

          One minor change to fix a typo

          Pg 216 (Bilbo, after hearing the Dwarves want him to use the Ring to sneak through the front gate)

          1st ed. "It is always poor me that has to get them out of their difficulties, at leas since the wizard left."

          2nd/3rd ed. "It is always poor me that has to get them out of their difficulties, at least since the wizard left."

          Illustrations by JRRT. Note the changes to the path of the River Running from the gate and past Dale.

          1. The Front Gate. Pen and ink drawing used in the printed editions

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          2. The Front Gate. Watercolour

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          Tolkien, J. R. R.. The Hobbit (Enhanced Edition) (p. 204). HarperCollins Publishers. Kindle Edition.

          3. - Smaug flies round the Mountain. Watercolour
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          Tolkien, J. R. R.. The Hobbit (Enhanced Edition) . HarperCollins Publishers. Kindle Edition.

          4. The Lonely Mountain. (Ravenhill and the stairs to the ruined watch tower are more defined.)
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          Tolkien, J. R. R.. The Hobbit (Enhanced Edition) . HarperCollins Publishers. Kindle Edition.

          5.The Lonely Mountain from the West (with "Approach to the perilous path" marked on right - ie southern - ridge)
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          Tolkien, J. R. R.. The Hobbit (Enhanced Edition) . HarperCollins Publishers. Kindle Edition.

          6. The Back Door. (original title The Back Gate. Gate has been crossed out and "Door" written underneath) Pen & pencil
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          Tolkien, J. R. R.. The Hobbit (Enhanced Edition) . HarperCollins Publishers. Kindle Edition.
          Last edited by Den; 18th September 2018, 02:56.
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          • #45
            Chapter 12 Inside Information

            "For a long time the dwarves stood in the dark before the door and debated, until at last Thorin spoke: 'Now is the time for our esteemed Mr. Baggins, who has proved himself a good companion on our long road, and a hobbit full of courage and resource far exceeding his size, and if I may say so possessed of good luck far exceeding the usual allowance—now is the time for him to perform the service for which he was included in our Company; now is the time for him to earn his Reward.' ”


            Another chapter with no difference between the First Edition and Second/Third Edition.

            And only one illustration.

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            Tolkien, J. R. R.. The Hobbit (Enhanced Edition) (p. 222). HarperCollins Publishers. Kindle Edition

            I always assume that glow at the top of the pile is The Arkenstone shimmering in the dark.

            The large coffer with the ladder in the foreground is inscribed with Thror and Thrain's initials "TH TH" on either side of the ladder ("thurs" in Futhark, or "thorn" in AngloSaxon). JRRT used the AngloSaxon runes in The Hobbit. Later he devised Cirith for the Dwarves. The Dwarves under the Mountain used Angerthas Erebor, a slightly "modernized" version of Angerthas Moria, and which has a different rune for "th, " and on the whole looks different from the runes of AngloSaxon England.

            Balin's Tomb inscription in Angerthas Erebor (in English)
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            And in Angerthas Moria (in Dwarvish)

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            (images from Wikimedia commons)

            Someone more familiar with Tengwar might be able to translate the Elvish letters on the coffer. I could have done it once upon a time, a long long time ago.
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