Gronds Scale Escorts

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #21
    Great idea! Put me on the list too!

    So there should be 4 Beasts pulling Grond, the best would be on their own stand in front of Grond, with the idea of Ithildin.
    Also 4 Trolls pushing the cart as seen below

    Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshot-2017-10-10 LOTR The Return of the King - Grond - YouTube.png
Views:	1
Size:	643.4 KB
ID:	89311
    Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshot-2017-10-10 LOTR The Return of the King - Grond - YouTube(1).png
Views:	1
Size:	760.8 KB
ID:	89312

    Comment


    • #22
      Originally posted by Ithildin View Post
      Kyle, no need to ask to be on the list. You already know I'm on every one of your LOTR project lists.


      Ok, I have been watching the Grond scene from the movie and I just don't see how the beasts can be on the same base as Grond.

      There is just not enough room. So I think the beasts should be out in front on their own base with the pulling harness coming back to attach to Grond. If any harness is made that is. I would be fine with the three of them not being in a harness if it is too complicated. But even without a harness there is now way they would be able to stand on the Grond base in front.

      The beasts base could be oval but in the back where it connects to Gronds base it would be rounded out to seamlessly mate up to the front of Gronds base. The base could have the same muddy ground as Gronds so it would just look like a continuation of the Grond Base. Kind of what you did with your Mirror Of Galadriel piece.

      Here is kind of what I'm talking about.

      Gronds base is blue and the beasts base is red. Sorry about the crappy drawing.



      As far as the trolls go, they would definitely stand on Gronds base with no problem.

      I don't see the need for trolls behind Grond because they would not be pulling Grond back to ram the gates with the beasts still hooked up to the front.

      Just some thoughts.
      I am in agreement with your idea for the front of Grond with the base and the four great beasts pulling it.

      I favor the trolls in back as they are important and do not want to see them left out. Even when they are not pulling Grond back, they were still there and they should still be there.

      And the four troll pushing in the middle. I would buy all of that in a second.

      It is so terrific that we have Kyle to add to and complement the work of WETA. This is so wonderful!!!
      Last edited by gideon; 11th October 2017, 01:00.

      Comment


      • #23
        Originally posted by Ithildin View Post
        Kyle, no need to ask to be on the list. You already know I'm on every one of your LOTR project lists.


        Ok, I have been watching the Grond scene from the movie and I just don't see how the beasts can be on the same base as Grond.

        There is just not enough room. So I think the beasts should be out in front on their own base with the pulling harness coming back to attach to Grond. If any harness is made that is. I would be fine with the three of them not being in a harness if it is too complicated. But even without a harness there is now way they would be able to stand on the Grond base in front.

        The beasts base could be oval but in the back where it connects to Gronds base it would be rounded out to seamlessly mate up to the front of Gronds base. The base could have the same muddy ground as Gronds so it would just look like a continuation of the Grond Base. Kind of what you did with your Mirror Of Galadriel piece.

        Here is kind of what I'm talking about.

        Gronds base is blue and the beasts base is red. Sorry about the crappy drawing.



        As far as the trolls go, they would definitely stand on Gronds base with no problem.

        I don't see the need for trolls behind Grond because they would not be pulling Grond back to ram the gates with the beasts still hooked up to the front.

        Just some thoughts.
        I totally agree.
        Working with an extra base like that would be perfect.
        More or less the same approach as the base for the Trolls Cooking Pot (and that one worked out fine as well).

        Please add me to the list as well.

        Comment


        • #24
          Since it will still be a while before I get my Grond, could someone measure the height of Grond's wheel for me, just so I have a good idea of the size of the Great Beasts and Trolls? Thanks!


          Originally posted by Ithildin View Post
          Kyle, no need to ask to be on the list. You already know I'm on every one of your LOTR project lists.


          Ok, I have been watching the Grond scene from the movie and I just don't see how the beasts can be on the same base as Grond.

          There is just not enough room. So I think the beasts should be out in front on their own base with the pulling harness coming back to attach to Grond. If any harness is made that is. I would be fine with the three of them not being in a harness if it is too complicated. But even without a harness there is now way they would be able to stand on the Grond base in front.

          The beasts base could be oval but in the back where it connects to Gronds base it would be rounded out to seamlessly mate up to the front of Gronds base. The base could have the same muddy ground as Gronds so it would just look like a continuation of the Grond Base. Kind of what you did with your Mirror Of Galadriel piece.

          Here is kind of what I'm talking about.

          Gronds base is blue and the beasts base is red. Sorry about the crappy drawing.



          As far as the trolls go, they would definitely stand on Gronds base with no problem.

          I don't see the need for trolls behind Grond because they would not be pulling Grond back to ram the gates with the beasts still hooked up to the front.

          Just some thoughts.

          I replied before I saw your edit. The area in front of Grond was a concern of mine as well, I like your idea of the add on base, and I think that will be the way I go!

          I hope to be able to do the harness, and make it look like it is attached to Grond, I will probably use real chain and that would simplify things a bit (I once sculpted, molded, and cast my own chain link once, not fun!).

          Thanks for your thoughts, I am glad I started this thread early, getting some good advice!


          Originally posted by Elessar View Post
          Cool! I’m excited to see this come together. It’s something I will be interested of course. If that wasn’t obvious.
          I did add you to the list, though I wasn't totally sure, thanks for letting me know!

          Originally posted by Herendil View Post
          Very cool idea, please add me to the list.
          Added!

          Originally posted by finarfin View Post
          Hi Kyle, needless to say you must add me to the list as well.

          Regarding the whole set up question, I completely agree with Ithildin.That is, separate bases that fit seamlessly with the main base, just like the mirror of Galadriel. Also, I think you should add the chains that are used for dragging Grond if possible.

          I am really excited about this as I am about all your projects. Sammath Naur cannot come soon enough!
          I didn't want to assume, you are added now!

          Yep, I think that is the way I will handle the Great Beasts, and I really want to add the chains and harness, it shouldn't be too much on an issue... I hope!

          I am really happy with Sammath Naur so far, it has taken way more engineering to get the tunnel than I thought. To be able to capture the tunnel details and make it something I could cast, that whole part is made of eight small pieces that have to fit together, it has been a learning experience!

          Originally posted by wargrider View Post
          Great idea! Put me on the list too!

          So there should be 4 Beasts pulling Grond, the best would be on their own stand in front of Grond, with the idea of Ithildin.
          Also 4 Trolls pushing the cart as seen below

          Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshot-2017-10-10 LOTR The Return of the King - Grond - YouTube.png
Views:	1
Size:	643.4 KB
ID:	89311
          Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshot-2017-10-10 LOTR The Return of the King - Grond - YouTube(1).png
Views:	1
Size:	760.8 KB
ID:	89312
          Added!

          It has been a little while since I watched the movies (I am panning a marathon soon!), but I thought there were Trolls pushing Grond, thanks for the images!

          Originally posted by gideon View Post

          I am in agreement with your idea for the front of Grond with the base and the four great beasts pulling it.

          I favor the trolls in back as they are important and do not want to see them left out. Even when they are not pulling Grond back, they were still there and they should still be there.

          And the four troll pushing in the middle. I would buy all of that in a second.

          It is so terrific that we have Kyle to add to and complement the work of WETA. This is so wonderful!!!
          The plan so far is to have the four Great Beasts on their own base that will fit with Grond's. Then with the Trolls, I wonder are the four pushing Grond are the same that swing Grond (I bet they are), anyway, there will be the four Trolls pushing, and maybe some Trolls following as well, all of the Trolls will use Grond's base. Then people can choose what they want the whole set, or certain piece.

          Originally posted by Informatix View Post

          I totally agree.
          Working with an extra base like that would be perfect.
          More or less the same approach as the base for the Trolls Cooking Pot (and that one worked out fine as well).

          Please add me to the list as well.
          Glad you agree with Ith!

          Oh, and added!

          Comment


          • #25
            Originally posted by Kyle View Post
            Since it will still be a while before I get my Grond, could someone measure the height of Grond's wheel for me, just so I have a good idea of the size of the Great Beasts and Trolls? Thanks!





            I replied before I saw your edit. The area in front of Grond was a concern of mine as well, I like your idea of the add on base, and I think that will be the way I go!

            I hope to be able to do the harness, and make it look like it is attached to Grond, I will probably use real chain and that would simplify things a bit (I once sculpted, molded, and cast my own chain link once, not fun!).

            Thanks for your thoughts, I am glad I started this thread early, getting some good advice!




            I did add you to the list, though I wasn't totally sure, thanks for letting me know!



            Added!



            I didn't want to assume, you are added now!

            Yep, I think that is the way I will handle the Great Beasts, and I really want to add the chains and harness, it shouldn't be too much on an issue... I hope!

            I am really happy with Sammath Naur so far, it has taken way more engineering to get the tunnel than I thought. To be able to capture the tunnel details and make it something I could cast, that whole part is made of eight small pieces that have to fit together, it has been a learning experience!



            Added!

            It has been a little while since I watched the movies (I am panning a marathon soon!), but I thought there were Trolls pushing Grond, thanks for the images!



            The plan so far is to have the four Great Beasts on their own base that will fit with Grond's. Then with the Trolls, I wonder are the four pushing Grond are the same that swing Grond (I bet they are), anyway, there will be the four Trolls pushing, and maybe some Trolls following as well, all of the Trolls will use Grond's base. Then people can choose what they want the whole set, or certain piece.



            Glad you agree with Ith!

            Oh, and added!
            Kyle - make sure I am on that list... you have to take care of another Michigander.

            And I think there are five with the ropes/chains in back of Grond. But I am sure your meticulous research will nail this down.
            Last edited by gideon; 11th October 2017, 05:47.

            Comment


            • #26
              Originally posted by Kyle View Post
              Since it will still be a while before I get my Grond, could someone measure the height of Grond's wheel for me, just so I have a good idea of the size of the Great Beasts and Trolls? Thanks!
              As best as I can make out, the diameter is 32mm, Kyle.

              Comment


              • #27
                Originally posted by gideon View Post

                Kyle - make sure I am on that list... you have to take care of another Michigander.

                And I think there are five with the ropes/chains in back of Grond. But I am sure your meticulous research will nail this down.
                Very true! (and don't worry you are on the list!)

                There could be, so far, other than the images posted I am working off of memory, as the project gets closer I will really dig in and do research, i.e. watch the movie, take lots of screenshots!

                Originally posted by bill59 View Post

                As best as I can make out, the diameter is 32mm, Kyle.
                I really appreciate it Bill!

                Knowing that has really emboldened me, it was starting to sink in, how many Trolls and Great Beasts would need to be sculpted, but at this scale that should be no problem!

                Comment


                • #28
                  Thanks Kyle!

                  It's fun kicking around ideas with everyone. I'm super stoked about this project and it is going to take an amazing piece to a whole new level!

                  Oh yeah, how did I not see 4 beasts???

                  Comment


                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Kyle View Post

                    I really appreciate it Bill!

                    Knowing that has really emboldened me, it was starting to sink in, how many Trolls and Great Beasts would need to be sculpted, but at this scale that should be no problem!
                    Glad to be of help Kyle.

                    With the addition of your Trolls and Great Beasts, I'm sure Grond is going to look even more impressive.

                    I'm so excited to see your work on this.

                    Comment


                    • #30
                      I would be also interested but what is the price range we are talking here? Any idea even as a hint? I would feel really bad if I notice I can't afford those beasts and/trolls when you have finished your part.

                      Comment


                      • #31
                        Originally posted by Ithildin View Post
                        Thanks Kyle!

                        It's fun kicking around ideas with everyone. I'm super stoked about this project and it is going to take an amazing piece to a whole new level!

                        Oh yeah, how did I not see 4 beasts???
                        Yeah, I really enjoy the community idea gathering! I hope it will, the last thing I want to do is make something that would take away from Grond.

                        Originally posted by bill59 View Post

                        Glad to be of help Kyle.

                        With the addition of your Trolls and Great Beasts, I'm sure Grond is going to look even more impressive.

                        I'm so excited to see your work on this.


                        I am going to do my best to see that they do, the biggest challenge will be to make everything look like it is supposed to be there and I can't wait to start (in the next few months )!


                        Originally posted by MetroMan2000 View Post
                        I would be also interested but what is the price range we are talking here? Any idea even as a hint? I would feel really bad if I notice I can't afford those beasts and/trolls when you have finished your part.
                        I don't really have a good idea about that yet, with the project still a ways off, there is a lot that needs to be sorted out before I will know.

                        Comment


                        • #32
                          Ok. Then I'm (conditionally) in. I AM interested in putting some action around Grond. He is so lonely there and he's missing his friends

                          Comment


                          • #33
                            Add you to the list!

                            At least your Grond has a home, mine is still waiting until November!

                            Comment


                            • #34
                              Originally posted by Kyle View Post
                              Add you to the list!

                              At least your Grond has a home, mine is still waiting until November!
                              I have the British eaglemoss great beast that is pulling Grond - if you need to borrow it door for any reason in your research I would be glad to loan it to you. They also have a cave troll that you may want to play with for judging the scale.

                              Comment


                              • #35
                                Originally posted by gideon View Post

                                I have the British eaglemoss great beast that is pulling Grond - if you need to borrow it door for any reason in your research I would be glad to loan it to you. They also have a cave troll that you may want to play with for judging the scale.
                                When I start gathering references, depending on what I can get from the movies and behind the scenes stuff, I may ask for some pictures at least, thanks for the offer!

                                Comment


                                • #36
                                  This is going to be a great project Kyle please add me to the list.

                                  Comment


                                  • #37
                                    Originally posted by Aushobbit View Post
                                    This is going to be a great project Kyle please add me to the list.
                                    Yeah, it is going to be fun! Added!

                                    Comment


                                    • #38
                                      Hi Kyle, would you please add me to the interested list?

                                      Comment


                                      • #39
                                        Can you please automatically add me to any list you have? Including this one lol.

                                        Comment


                                        • #40
                                          Originally posted by Radagast View Post
                                          Hi Kyle, would you please add me to the interested list?
                                          Added!

                                          Originally posted by TheWhiteHand View Post
                                          Can you please automatically add me to any list you have? Including this one lol.
                                          You are now on both (you were on the Sammath Naur one already)!

                                          Comment

                                          Working...
                                          X